06 April 2006

Reasons to make cupmarks (No.1)

Found these links to images and detials about why cup marks are still being created in the Hawaiian islands. worth a look for the figurative rock art as well . http://www.parentspress.com/ffhawaiirockart.html http://www.instanthawaii.com/cgi-bin/hawaii?Hikes.petroglyph http://www.hawaiiweb.com/hawaii/html/sites/puu_loa_petroglyphs.html


rockrich said...

bloody heck Mr C, fascinating stuff!! The similarities to some of ‘em on these fair isles is astounding... I think a picture of Roughting Linn is even on the last link;-)

Given the propensity of such stuff about the planet & through different epochs, it does make you wonder about the hardwiring of such designs in terms of ‘ritual’ dunit?.

Has anyone tested cups for DNA leftover from umbilicals yet :-)

GraemeC said...

Hey Rich,
I think you have enough to record on the project with out adding DNA analysis :)
But its a fascinating and mind boggling fact that very similar rock art occurs all over the world, and that people have been cup marking rocks for 1000's of years and still are today.
I'm inclined to think its a culture thing rather than hard wired into people, but it does make me wonder just how far it goes back.

rockrich said...

Howdo Graeme, yep my last statement was tosh, 'hardwiring'& 'ritual' just don't go together. I was thinking along the lines of the human brain finding certain patterns / shapes pleasing, so we just reproduce them in different forms.... I dunno though.

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Hobson said...

Hawaii, that rings a bell. I'm sure I've seen a photo of a whopping great basin too. Might still have the jpeg somewhere. They're great links, ta muchly.

The hardwiring thing. It's a 'nature vs nurture' kinda thing. Or chicken and egg if you like.

The thing that marries the two (to some extent) is the stuff that considers the tendencies of our brains to identify circles in conjunction with the tendency of the human neuromotor systems to make a limited number of motions when marking a 2-D surface via a repetetive action. A bit like the archetypal elements of doodles/childrens scribbles.

I can't explain what I'm on about very clearly, but the gist of what I'm getting at is that it's easier to draw a circle by liking a series of dots than it is to create a continuous circular line, and it's easier to notice a circle than it is to notice a triangle.

But even if true, that would only explain the form of cups, not the fators hich affected their location, number, meaning etc. They would be more likely to be culturally determined, and hence more variable between different populations.

That make any sense? (It's late and I've got a mountain of GCSE marking to wade through... Gimme old rocks any day ;))